Comments on: My HHO Generator in my 2004 Hyundai Santa Fe http://www.ngvinstaller.com/my-hho-generator-in-my-2004-hyundai-santa-fe/ NGV Installation System Tue, 23 Feb 2010 09:49:58 +0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: wh333t http://www.ngvinstaller.com/my-hho-generator-in-my-2004-hyundai-santa-fe/comment-page-1/#comment-4399 wh333t Tue, 21 Apr 2009 23:42:41 +0000 http://www.ngvinstaller.com/my-hho-generator-in-my-2004-hyundai-santa-fe/#comment-4399 Sounds difficult to do. I think I want to hho boost a carb'd vehicle. sounds like it would be way easier. Sounds difficult to do.

I think I want to hho boost a carb’d vehicle. sounds like it would be way easier.

]]> By: Triple88a http://www.ngvinstaller.com/my-hho-generator-in-my-2004-hyundai-santa-fe/comment-page-1/#comment-4398 Triple88a Tue, 21 Apr 2009 06:50:20 +0000 http://www.ngvinstaller.com/my-hho-generator-in-my-2004-hyundai-santa-fe/#comment-4398 even on a carb vehicle, you still need to retard the timing.The type of fuel system does not matter.Simply when the spark plug fires up,gasoline takes longer to ignite then hydrogen so the spark plug actually fires before the cylinder reaches the top of the stroke (Top Dead Center) so technically the fuel is already burning while the piston is still moving up.Now since hydrogen burns faster,you need to slow the spark plug a bit otherwise you get combustion while the piston is still on the way UP even on a carb vehicle, you still need to retard the timing.The type of fuel system does not matter.Simply when the spark plug fires up,gasoline takes longer to ignite then hydrogen so the spark plug actually fires before the cylinder reaches the top of the stroke (Top Dead Center) so technically the fuel is already burning while the piston is still moving up.Now since hydrogen burns faster,you need to slow the spark plug a bit otherwise you get combustion while the piston is still on the way UP

]]> By: wh333t http://www.ngvinstaller.com/my-hho-generator-in-my-2004-hyundai-santa-fe/comment-page-1/#comment-4397 wh333t Sat, 18 Apr 2009 08:17:31 +0000 http://www.ngvinstaller.com/my-hho-generator-in-my-2004-hyundai-santa-fe/#comment-4397 Yea, but to retard the timings on a carb'd vehicle you just open the head and move the cam ahead or behind a degree or two? Yea, but to retard the timings on a carb’d vehicle you just open the head and move the cam ahead or behind a degree or two?

]]> By: Triple88a http://www.ngvinstaller.com/my-hho-generator-in-my-2004-hyundai-santa-fe/comment-page-1/#comment-4396 Triple88a Wed, 15 Apr 2009 07:41:46 +0000 http://www.ngvinstaller.com/my-hho-generator-in-my-2004-hyundai-santa-fe/#comment-4396 well thats retarding the intake and exhaust ports and you gotta have special gears that allow you do that, but what i'm talking about is when the plug fires, not when the valves open. It's pretty much all done by computer besides some very old vehicles that used mechanical sprockets that shifted depending on engine speed. You gotta use a computer chip that can allow you to trick the computer from the factory on the car (ECU) so it sends the signal later or at least so you can modify the signal. well thats retarding the intake and exhaust ports and you gotta have special gears that allow you do that, but what i’m talking about is when the plug fires, not when the valves open. It’s pretty much all done by computer besides some very old vehicles that used mechanical sprockets that shifted depending on engine speed. You gotta use a computer chip that can allow you to trick the computer from the factory on the car (ECU) so it sends the signal later or at least so you can modify the signal.

]]> By: wh333t http://www.ngvinstaller.com/my-hho-generator-in-my-2004-hyundai-santa-fe/comment-page-1/#comment-4395 wh333t Sun, 12 Apr 2009 20:55:17 +0000 http://www.ngvinstaller.com/my-hho-generator-in-my-2004-hyundai-santa-fe/#comment-4395 Sounds expensive... I thought all these guys were doing was changing the o2 sensor somewhat and voila. If you have to change all your ECU timings and **** this is gonna be a bit expensive and not very price effective for the average driver :( Sounds expensive…

I thought all these guys were doing was changing the o2 sensor somewhat and voila. If you have to change all your ECU timings and **** this is gonna be a bit expensive and not very price effective for the average driver :(

]]> By: Triple88a http://www.ngvinstaller.com/my-hho-generator-in-my-2004-hyundai-santa-fe/comment-page-1/#comment-4394 Triple88a Fri, 10 Apr 2009 08:45:09 +0000 http://www.ngvinstaller.com/my-hho-generator-in-my-2004-hyundai-santa-fe/#comment-4394 To properly make it run,you will need more than to tap into the O2 and lean it out. I mean would you rather burn a hole in your cylinder or would you rather make it work right even if it costs a bit more? On some cars they have knock sensors which retard the timing automatically when they hear premature detonation however this is not the cure as it takes a while for it to react. There was a video of some guy running it on i think a corolla and you could really tell it was pinging bad. To properly make it run,you will need more than to tap into the O2 and lean it out. I mean would you rather burn a hole in your cylinder or would you rather make it work right even if it costs a bit more? On some cars they have knock sensors which retard the timing automatically when they hear premature detonation however this is not the cure as it takes a while for it to react. There was a video of some guy running it on i think a corolla and you could really tell it was pinging bad.

]]> By: wh333t http://www.ngvinstaller.com/my-hho-generator-in-my-2004-hyundai-santa-fe/comment-page-1/#comment-4393 wh333t Wed, 08 Apr 2009 17:41:50 +0000 http://www.ngvinstaller.com/my-hho-generator-in-my-2004-hyundai-santa-fe/#comment-4393 So are you talking like a programmable chip? Like a Hondata? So are you talking like a programmable chip? Like a Hondata?

]]> By: Triple88a http://www.ngvinstaller.com/my-hho-generator-in-my-2004-hyundai-santa-fe/comment-page-1/#comment-4392 Triple88a Tue, 07 Apr 2009 17:07:43 +0000 http://www.ngvinstaller.com/my-hho-generator-in-my-2004-hyundai-santa-fe/#comment-4392 no just a piggy back to retard the timing a bit. no just a piggy back to retard the timing a bit.

]]> By: wh333t http://www.ngvinstaller.com/my-hho-generator-in-my-2004-hyundai-santa-fe/comment-page-1/#comment-4391 wh333t Mon, 06 Apr 2009 11:06:39 +0000 http://www.ngvinstaller.com/my-hho-generator-in-my-2004-hyundai-santa-fe/#comment-4391 Hrm. I definitely don't understand it but w00t! Hrm. I definitely don’t understand it but w00t!

]]> By: MikPil http://www.ngvinstaller.com/my-hho-generator-in-my-2004-hyundai-santa-fe/comment-page-1/#comment-4390 MikPil Sun, 05 Apr 2009 22:39:20 +0000 http://www.ngvinstaller.com/my-hho-generator-in-my-2004-hyundai-santa-fe/#comment-4390 Notice any pinging from engine? Notice any pinging from engine?

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